>>> The thought of not having the Holy Spirit
Ok
๐ฆ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ธ๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ผ๐ป๐ด๐๐ฒ๐ ๐ถ๐ ๐ฎ ๐๐ถ๐ด๐ป ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ถ๐ฟ ๐ถ๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ถ๐ ๐ฝ๐ฟ๐ผ๐ฝ๐ฎ๐ฏ๐น๐ ๐บ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ผ๐ฐ๐ฐ๐๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ป๐ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ป ๐๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ธ๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ผ๐ป๐ด๐๐ฒ๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ถ๐ ๐ถ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ถ๐ด๐ป ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ก๐๐ก๐
๐๐'๐ ๐๐๐ฐ๐ต ๐ฎ๐ป ๐ถ๐ป๐๐ฒ๐ป๐๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐น๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ถ๐ป๐๐๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฑ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ธ๐ถ๐ป๐ด,๐ผ๐ป๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐๐น๐ฑ ๐ด๐ฟ๐ผ๐ฎ๐ป ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐๐ผ๐๐น๐ฑ ๐บ๐ฎ๐ธ๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐๐ผ ๐๐ต๐๐ ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐บ๐ผ๐๐๐ต ๐ถ๐ป๐๐๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฑ
Yes I believe that you receive the Holy Spirit at the moment of belief
And i still believe that there is no such thing as a unbeliever Christian. We all hated Christ before we came to believe
๐ฅ๐ผ๐บ๐ฎ๐ป๐ 8:26 ๐ง๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐น๐ ๐ฆ๐ฝ๐ถ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ ๐ถ๐๐๐ฒ๐น๐ณ ๐บ๐ฎ๐ธ๐ฒ๐ ๐ถ๐ป๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐๐ ๐๐ถ๐๐ต ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ก๐๐ก๐๐ฆ ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ฐ๐ต ๐๐๐ก๐ก๐ข๐ง ๐๐ ๐จ๐ง๐ง๐๐ฅ๐๐
We were born in iniquity as it is written in psalms
๐ฃ๐๐ฎ๐น๐บ๐ 143:2 ๐ก๐ผ ๐ผ๐ป๐ฒ ๐น๐ถ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ถ๐ ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ด๐ต๐ ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐
๐๐ฝ๐ต๐ฒ๐๐ถ๐ฎ๐ป๐ 1:7 ๐ง๐ต๐ฟ๐ผ๐๐ด๐ต ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฏ๐น๐ผ๐ผ๐ฑ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐ต๐ถ๐ ๐ฆ๐ผ๐ป ๐๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ ๐ณ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ฟ๐ผ๐บ ๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐๐ถ๐ป๐.๐๐ผ๐ฑ ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ด๐ถ๐๐ฒ๐ ๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐ณ๐ฎ๐ถ๐น๐๐ฟ๐ฒ๐
๐ฅ๐ผ๐บ๐ฎ๐ป๐ 9:18 ๐๐ผ๐ฑ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐บ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฐ๐ ๐ผ๐ป ๐๐ต๐ผ๐บ๐ฒ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ถ๐น๐น๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ป๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ต๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐ผ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐๐ผ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ณ๐๐๐ฒ ๐๐ผ ๐น๐ถ๐๐๐ฒ๐ป
๐ฌ๐ฒ๐๐ต๐๐ฎ ๐ถ๐ ๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฑ!
1 ๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ป๐๐ต๐ถ๐ฎ๐ป๐ 12:3 ๐ก๐ผ ๐ผ๐ป๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ป ๐๐ฎ๐ ๐ฌ๐ฒ๐๐ต๐๐ฎ ๐ถ๐ ๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฑ ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐ฏ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐น๐ ๐๐ต๐ผ๐๐
๐๐๐ฒ๐ป ๐ถ๐ณ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐ฑ
Good morning brothers and sisters
>>> Good morning brothers and sisters
Grand rising!
Hope i can be forgiven for earlier
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.ย (John 3:16, NKJV, God forgave so must we all
But I will say this. Rudeness and accusations wonโt be tolerated
10 and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.ย (1 Thessalonians 1:10
I believe that the wrath is against all nonbelievers that donโt mean that weโre raptured away prior to the wrath to come
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.ย (1 Thessalonians 4:15 no pre trib here. It says we will be present those who still are awake to see the Lords coming
17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.ย (1 Thessalonians 4:17, NKJV this is the rapture at the coming of the Lord and the setting up of the kingdom
9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,ย (1 Thessalonians 5:9, NKJV, again nothing regarding pre trib here. Wrath is for all those who donโt believe the gospel.
>>> 9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but...
Respectfully that is a matter of interpretation brother. The rapture and the second coming are two different events. At the rapture we will meet the Lord in the clouds and at the second coming we will be with Him when the clouds unravel like a scroll.
Then the rapture happens at the second coming
I attended a new church this Sunday and I am going to leave the body I was attending and join this fellowship
This pastor is a pretrib so I do need to ask him where heโs getting his verses. However, itโs not a deal breaker because his teachings are solid and the body life is really good.
The body life at the church I was attending is weak and there isnโt any growth happening plus the pastor has no accountability to a deacon board or elders
Your welcome to join in weโre all welcoming here
20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,ย (2 Peter 1:20
21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.ย (2 Peter 1:21, NKJV
>>> The body life at the church I was attendin...
That's tough! Maybe you can be the change they need!
I agree but people tend to misinterpret just saying
The pre trib theology has only been in existence since 1830s
So all the years prior werenโt pre trib taught. Just sayin
In all honesty who wants to experience the hard times? Nobody! I can see why people all jump on the pre trib bandwagon because they donโt want to go through it even though itโs specifically directed at non believers who wonโt repent
>>> The pre trib theology has only been in exi...
Pre-trip theology has been an existence since the Bible is written because it is what the Bible teaches. Whether or not people choose to see and accept that.
