>>> I don’t know Greek to read the original I ... Same! I like NASB, CJB, and HCSB as well. The all use Yahweh, Elohim, and Adonai as well. No verses omitted either.

>>> Same for you my brother Thank you fam!

Pre-tribulational Rapture believer too?

No im a post trib pre kingdom

>>> Same! I like NASB, CJB, and HCSB as well. ... They***

I believe that we’re in a tribulation period after the crucifixion

>>> No im a post trib pre kingdom Oh ok. That's where we differ but that's ok. We'll all be in Heaven together no matter what. Open minded to hearing a new perspective on pretrib belief? I have a couple solid teachers who have YouTube channels I can send you links to.

Umm

I used to be pre trib but I can’t find and valid scriptures to back it up just opinions on verses

>>> I believe that we’re in a tribulation peri... That I agree with! Birth pains. But the great tribulation is for the Jews and unbelievers. 1 Thessalonians tells us we're not called to wrath which is what the great tribulation is the 21 judgments of God aka God's wrath. Revelation 3 says He will keep us from the hour of testing (great tribulation) which is to come upon the whole earth.

I need to chew on that

Just like the Jews in Egypt didn’t suffer the wrath of Yahweh I feel that’s the same that we will endure

2 Thessalonians 2 Paul warns against being deceived into thinking the tribulation period has begun Paul describes the "coming of our Lord" as the Second Coming Paul describes "our gathering together to Him" as the rapture 1 Thessalonians 4 Tms.edu says this passage only fits the model of a pre-tribulation rapture Revelation 3:10

We will be present but not be put to wrath of Yahweh

>>> I need to chew on that Thank you for being open minded

I am but I need to really need to disect the verse

>>> Just like the Jews in Egypt didn’t suffer ... I disagree we are not Jews. The church gets different treatment than the Jews do because of their unbelief in Jesus. Jesus changed everything

Yes Jesus did change everything

I’m not calling us Jews

>>> I’m not calling us Jews I know you're not lol.

I’m using that as an example

The tribulation is specifically for Jews and unbelievers. It's for God to deal with Israel so that they will turn to him. Hence why it said the multitude was uncountable of the saints that came out of the tribulation. I think the number of Christians that will go in the Rapture is smaller than what most think. But unsaved Christians will go through it too unfortunately.

@Repoman64 YT @RobertBreaker YT

But there is no such thing as a saved Christian

I'm going to get ready for bed and had to bed. I look forward to chatting more. Where are you from by the way?

I’m from Pennsylvania

Okay let’s do that

I need to get to some work I’m at my job

>>> But there is no such thing as a saved Chri... That we disagree on too. The Bible teaches that we are SAVED by grace through faith. Whosoever would call upon the name of the Lord shall be SAVED. Confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead and you will be SAVED

>>> I need to get to some work I’m at my job Ok brother. Shalom fam. Oregon here

That’s true but what is a un saved

If your not saved your not a Christian

I need to go

Peace to you

An unsaved Christian is someone that professes Jesus close to them with their lips but far from them with their hearts. They don't have the Holy Spirit in them. Do they love the Lord? Absolutely. Do they have a personal relationship with Him? Maybe. Do they have the Holy Spirit in them? No.

𝗠𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘄 23:10 𝗢𝗻𝗹𝘆 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗲𝗿,𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗶𝘀,𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁

𝗣𝘀𝗮𝗹𝗺𝘀 55:19 𝗚𝗼𝗱 𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗮𝗳𝗳𝗹𝗶𝗰𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗮𝘂𝘀𝗲 𝗧𝗛𝗘𝗬 𝗛𝗔𝗩𝗘 𝗡𝗢 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗚𝗘𝗦,𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗳𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗚𝗼𝗱

Okay I have a opinion on that but for another time

The thought of not having the Holy Spirit

𝗝𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗶𝗮𝗵 32:40 𝗜 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗽𝘂𝘁 𝗺𝘆 𝗳𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗶𝗿 𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘁𝘀,𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗱𝗲𝗽𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗺𝗲

𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲 2 𝘀𝗶𝗴𝗻𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗮 𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗛𝗼𝗹𝘆 𝗚𝗵𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺

𝗨𝗻𝗳𝗼𝗿𝘁𝘂𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗹𝘆,𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝘁𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁𝘀 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗯𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝘀𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗶𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗼 𝗱𝗼𝘂𝗯𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗶𝗿 𝘀𝗮𝗹𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 1 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺

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